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论兄弟姊妹 -- Johannes Schoener

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发表于 2009-12-10 20:30:16 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
摘录自 On the Jdgments of Nativities 第一册第三章。
现代英语译者: Robert Hand



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Chpater Three : Concerning the Native's Brothers and Sisters.

You will know the siblings of the same mother from the Midheaven, from the eleventh house, and from the place of the mother. Moreover, the mother is Venus in a diurnal nativity, and the Moon in a nocturnal one.

You will know that there are a number of siblings horn idler the first horn when fortunate planets occupy the aforesaid places and the dispositors of these places are fortunate, or if they have a commixture with fortunes in fortunate places; for the number of siblings will be shown by the number of fortunate planets occupying the aforesaid places. Look also at whether they are in signs of one or two bodies,' such that if three fortunate planets occupy the aforesaid places, and they are all in signs of a single form, three siblings will be born to the native. If two planets occupy bicorporeal signs, and one planet a sign of single five siblings will be born to the native. If there are fortunes elevated over these places from application, or if they aspect the aforesaid placed by the opposition, or square aspect, they will indicate a paucity of siblings, especially if the Sun should be with them. If infortunes occupy some angle, especially the Ascendant, harming the place of siblings by a hostile aspect, and if Saturn should he such a damaging planet, then it brings harm to the elder siblings; if Mars, to the younger. If they are oriental planets, they signify the elder siblings, but occidental planets, the younger. If infortunes are elevated above the planets that grant siblings, or if they are joined together with them, the siblings will have short lives.

Granters of masculine siblings are planets masculine in their proper qualities and in a suitable position in the world.'

Granters of feminine siblings are planets feminine in their proper qualities and in a suitable position in the world.'

Oriental granters of siblings signify the first siblings, occidental ones the last siblings.
If the fortunes which grant siblings have concord with the Midheaven, or will, the place of the mother, and with the Part of Fortune, they signify love and friendship between the siblings in life and in substance. If, however, infortunes are found in the aforesaid places, or if they aspect the aforesaid places by the opposition or square aspect when they have no concord with the aforesaid places, it signifies discord, jealousy, and deception among the siblings.

If the planets which grant siblings are in a fortunate and excellent state, they decree noble and powerful siblings who are greatly praised. But if they are weak and unlucky, they signify siblings of vile and also little reputation.

If you wish to make an examination beyond such matters concerning siblings, erect a figure of heaven according to the form of the governor' of siblings,' and extract the hyleg and Almuten, and judge upon the state of being of siblings in particular just as in nativities. These are according to Ptolemy.


Sentences and Aphorisms of Others

                   Saturn, the Sun, and the first triplicity lord of the third for elder siblings.
                   Jupiter, Mars, and the second triplicity lord of the.third for middle siblings.
                   Venus, Mercury, and the third triplicity lord of the third for younger siblings.
                   the third house.'
For siblings   its lord.
consider       the Almuten of the Significators of Siblings.
                   the cosignificator of the third which is always Mars.
                   the first triplicity lord of the third house,
                   the Part of Siblings.
                   its lord.


Others say that one must look at the sign of the third house and at its lord, and which planets may be in that place and how they aspect that house. For if the planets in that place are fortunate or they aspect the house well, speak of the good and the abundance of their prosperity. If the planets in that place arc evil or the aspects of planets [are evil], speak to the contrary.


                           the cusp of the third house.
                           its lord.
                           Mars, the cosignificator [of the third house].
The Almuten of     his lord.
the Significators    the first triplicity lord of the third.
of Siblings is         the second triplicity lord,
drawn from           the third triplicity lord.
                           the Part of Siblings,
                           its lord.

            
Saturn and the Sun signify elder siblings, Mars and Jupiter middle siblings, and Venus and Mercury
younger siblings. If they are in a powerful place and fortunate, they signify powerful and fortunate
siblings, ones of long life. If it is the contrary, it signifies the contrary. If in feminine signs, [it
signifies] sisters.

   Saturn and Mars oriental signify elder and distinguished siblings; occidental, younger and the
lowest' of siblings.
   If the lord of the Ascendant should aspect Saturn or Mars, or both, by a bad aspect, it signifies
little peace among the siblings. If it aspects with a good aspect, it signifies good friendship among
them.

   Should planets which have dignity in the place of the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant also be in
masculine signs, or the greater part of them, the native will have brothers who are long-lived and
fortunate. If they are in feminine signs, he will have more sisters than brothers. If said planets are
oriental, the siblings will be fortunate; if occidental, unfortunate.

   Good planets in the third house and the lord of the third fortunate in a masculine sign denote
fortunate brothers, but in a feminine sign sisters.

   As many planets as aspect the third house or its lord which are in masculine signs, the native will
have that many brothers. And if they are in feminine signs, that many sisters. And if the planets
aspect with a good aspect, the siblings will live; if evil, they will quickly die.

   The number of siblings is known from the distance of the triplicity lord of the third house from
the Ascendant' to the Ascendant, if the lord is above the earth, or from the Ascendant to the triplicity
lord, if the triplicity lord is below the earth giving one to each sign one sibling, and if any of these
signs are a common sign, you will double the number.

   You will know the number of siblings from the sign of the third house; for if it is one of the signs
of many children and its lord is similarly placed, say that there will be several siblings. If a sign of
few children and its lord is similarly placed, say that there will be few.

   The number of siblings is known from the number of signs between the Part of Siblings and its
lord, a common sign [gives] two, and one sibling for each planet between them.
   Cancer, Pisces, and Scorpio are [signs] of the most [siblings].3

   Leo, Virgo, Capricorn, and the beginning of Aquarius [are signs of] few or no siblings.' The
other signs are average in the multitude or scarcity [of siblings].5

   Look at the planets which are between the Ascendant and the fourth house. For if they are
fortunes, the mother will produce children again. And if they are evil, the mother will abort, or those
who will be born will die in their first days.' This I have found by experience.

   If the lord of the sign of the third house enters combustion, it signifies a scarcity of siblings.

   If Mars and the lord of the place in which he is are in a sign of several children, and the lord of
Mars own place is oriental, this signifies a multitude of siblings, especially if the Ascendant is not


Leo or Sagittarius, and the Moon is not in these same signs, [Leo or Sagittarius]

  If the sign of the third house is common, and its lord is in a common sign, it signifies that the
native has siblings from the father only, but not from the mother.

  If the native's Ascendant is the third degree of Scorpio, the native will not have siblings from
his own mother.

  If Mars enters combustion, it signifies the death ofyounger siblings, and in a similar manner the
scarcity of siblings.

  [If there is] an evil planet peregrine in the third house, speak of the scarcity of siblings.

  Mars, the state of the Sun also [being] fortunate, and Mars' triplicity lord in a good and suitable
place, [these] signify the strength of the siblings and the abundance of their felicity. And if Mars is
in bad state, also likewise the lord of his triplicity, judge unhappiness and evil. The triplicity lords
of the Ascendant being cadent proclaim a scarcity of siblings. If these are in fortunate signs in a
middling condition, they denote a middling number [of siblings].

  See in which place the Part of Siblings falls and where is its lord. For from these there will be
a judgment just as from the sign of the third house because if the testimonies of the judgment are2
equal, the judgment will be more secure and stronger. And if they arc different, the testimony of the
sign of the third house and its lord will be the more secure and strong for Parts are the last in
judgments.'

  The lord of the third house joined bodily to malefics or also by evil aspect signifies the death of
siblings, and their destruction. But if they are joined to felicitous stars or their aspects, they proclaim
the joy and happiness of the siblings.

  The first triplicity lord of the third house in the Ascendant signifies that the native is first born
of his mother. And if it is in the tenth or fourth, he will likewise be the first, or the fourth child. And
if it is in the seventh house, he will be the first, or the seventh child.'

  If the lord of the house of siblings is in the Ascendant, it signifies that the native for whom you
make a judgment is the first born, or only son. And when between the Ascendant and Midheaven
there is no planet, it signifies in a similar manner that the native is the first born, and if there are any
other siblings after him, they will be destroyed, or that the native himself will be elder and better.

  Saturn or the Sun in any angle in his own dignity, or if the lord of the Ascendant is one of the
three superior planets and IS in the third house, or if the lord of the third house is one of the inferior
planets in the Ascendant, it signifies being the first born,

   If the lord of the third, and the Part of Siblings, or Jupiter should be in common signs or in signs
of many children, and fortunes aspect these with friendly reception, it signifies being the first born,
and he will have good and powerful siblings.

   The lord of the house of siblings or the Part of Siblings combust, or the Sun in the house of
siblings, or in the opposition of Jupiter signifies few siblings, and that they will be destroyed or
scattered.

  The lord of the house of siblings in the Ascendant signifies being the first born and the native
will be the only child,

If the first triplicity lord of the Ascendant is joined with the third triplicity lord in the second,
sixth, ninth, or eleventh houses, and some infortune aspects them or it does not aspect,' the native
will not have siblings, or if he does have them, they will die, and he himself will remain, or they will
live in exile with the native alone remaining at home.

  The lord of the house of siblings, and the Part of Siblings in the angles, in good places, not
combust, the native will have many siblings.

  The native will have advantage from siblings and they from him if the lord of the third house
is joined to the Part of Fortune or to its lord in good places.

  If Jupiter and Saturn are in the house of siblings with the Dragon's Tail, and Venus aspects by
square or opposition, the native will have anxiety because of his siblings.

  If Saturn is in the opposition of the Part of Siblings, or in the opposition of the lord of the third
house, or is joined to both, or to one of them, or one of them is in the third house, especially if Mars
should aspect that place and he is slow in motion, the siblings will kill him and they will have much
loss.

  The agreement of siblings toward the native is known from the fortunate aspect of the lord of
the third to the lord of the Ascendant, or from the aspect of the lord of the Part of Siblings to that
same Part.

  Mercury joined to Mars or opposed to him makes discord among siblings.

  If the triplicity lord of the Ascendant is stronger than the triplicity lord of the third, that native
will be more dignified than his siblings.

  That which is between the Midheaven and the Ascendant signifies elder siblings, and that which
is between Ascendant and the Angle of the Earth [signifies] younger siblings.

  If the Moon is the lady of the Ascendant or of the Part of Fortune, in the third house, increased
in light,' fortunate, the native will be religious, an observer of the law, and he will profit from
spiritual matters.

  If the first triplicity lord of the Ascendant in the twelfth or eleventh house is not a fortune, and
there is some planet in these houses which is a fortune, it signifies that the native will have living
siblings. And if they are malefics, it signifies that he had siblings but that they are dead.

     The separation of the Moon from the Sun or Saturn denotes that the native is not the first born
of his father. But if she is separated from Jupiter, Mars, Mercury, or Venus, it signifies that he does
not have a sibling who is older than himself. And if she is void in course, it signifies the evil state
of elder siblings. And if she is separated from malefics, the previous siblings will quickly die, or it
signifies their destruction.

    If the Moon is being separated from a planet which is in its own domicile or exaltation, these
will keep the older siblings well. If the Moon applies to a planet in its own domicile or exaltation,
the native will have dignity and also his siblings who will come after him.

    If Leo is on the third house and the Sun makes the lord of the second combust, it signifies that
the native will lose riches because of his siblings. Say the same if it makes the lord of the Part of
Fortune combust.

    If the lord of the Ascendant does not aspect the lord of the third house, the siblings who are born
after the native will flee from his sight, and they will he harmful to themselves and to the native.

    If the lord of the third is rendered unfortunate above the earth, it decrees impediments for the
elder siblings. But if it is under the earth, [it will be] for those who are born after the native.

    The lord of the third in the first house decrees that the first sibling must he killed, or the native
will be the only survivor. If there is a common sign in the third, this denotes that the native will have
other siblings and Perhaps from another mother.

    Mars on the Ascendant in the day or in the fourth, or Saturn in the night makes the native kind
with respect to his blood relatives.

    When the signs of the third and eighth houses arc [the signs] of one planet, the native's siblings
will depart from life while the native is [still] living.'

    Venus the first lady of the triplicity of the third house retrograde and in bad state signifies the
scarcity of siblings and discord among them.

    If the lord of the second in the second sees' the lord of the third, the native will have difficulties
from his siblings, or because of them.

    Cancer or Capricorn rising signifies that the siblings are hostile to the native or that he will have
litigation with his siblings, and yet his siblings will come to power.

  Aries or Libra ascending denotes that siblings will pursue the native with unfortunate hatreds,
or they will be in a base state.

  Virgo or Pisces ascending signifies that the native's siblings will be the cause of their own
illnesses, and that he will live longer than they.

  Leo or Aquarius ascending denotes that native's siblings will die or that they will have mutual
animosities and dissensions.

  A good application of the lord of the Ascendant with the lord of the third signifies the concord
and love of the siblings. If from the opposition, describe a multitude of hatreds. If they are
conjoined, speak of stability of friendship and concord. Judge the same from the lord of the Part of
Siblings.

  When the Part of Siblings is with' the lord of the Part of Fortune, it signifies the discord of the
siblings and that one will extend jealousy toward another, and they will mutually deceive each other.
But when the two lords aspect each other well, their affairs will be composed in peace.

  If the lord of the Ascendant aspects Mars the lord of the third by trine with reception, it signifies
that the native will agree with his siblings although there is discord among his siblings which you
will do well to note. For the lord of the Ascendant signifies the native to whom you make judgment,
and for this reason he himself will conserve harmony and mutual benevolence with his siblings.

  The Part of Siblings and its lord signify the state of the siblings and their harmony. If they are
in signs of many children, they signify many siblings; in signs of few children, few siblings.

  Others say that Mercury and Mars are significators of brothers and the Moon of sisters about
whom they judge according to their agreement and strength.

  The first triplicity lord of the third house signifies elder siblings, the second the middle siblings,
the third younger siblings. Therefore from the condition of these lords the quality and fortune of
siblings is discerned, that is, from their application to planets which are in good places, joined to
lucky or unlucky stars.





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 楼主| 发表于 2009-12-10 20:50:20 | 显示全部楼层
发帖前都整理过的,但发之后却总是乱的。
点进去编辑帖子,却看起来又是正常的。
不知道哪里出问题 ?


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任何一份资料都是一块砖,可以用来筑基个人的星命信仰,
但也同时可以用来解构它。
只是不论筑基或解构,主要能影响战力的还是个人内功的高下,
哪位先贤出产的百年古砖能有的外挂还是有限的。

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发表于 2009-12-11 10:20:27 | 显示全部楼层
可能是由于编辑器的原因,某些属性在发帖时被自动过滤了。
发表于 2010-2-21 07:47:31 | 显示全部楼层
熊納的書處於一個尷尬期,
前面想銜接阿拉伯的論法(故出現了很多阿拉伯點、三分主星)
另一方面又延續拖樂密的體例編排
使得占星家自身並沒有太多的創建與發明
你可以說他是優點,因為一本書內可看到不同時期的觀念
但缺點是古占星家們囿於拖樂密與阿拉伯占星而限制了思維的激盪
沒有創造融會貫通古人的方法,這是許多文藝復興之前的弊病。
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